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      Oh no, you’re only the thousandth person to tell me that. It’s so persuasive. Either I vote for the guy funding a genocide or the Boogeyman gets elected1!!111!!1

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        Yes, that’s the reality of the situation, whether you like it or not. If you don’t care if that happens, fair enough. But don’t try to say that not voting for Biden doesn’t help Trump.

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          I didn’t say that. I said that at this point, months into this debacle, it’s obviously not persuasive to me. I am not willing to sell the lives of Palestinian children to make my life marginally more comfortable.

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              You can’t get extra dead. Here’s the IPC’s take on Gaza right now-

              The famine threshold for household acute food insecurity has already been far exceeded and, given the latest data showing a steeply increasing trend in cases of acute malnutrition, it is highly likely that the famine threshold for acute malnutrition has also been exceeded. The upward trend in non-trauma mortality is also expected to accelerate, resulting in all famine thresholds likely to be passed imminently.

              Those kids aren’t going to be alive in November.

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                  I freely admit he won’t help them. I’m also telling you it won’t matter by then because you can’t be extra dead.

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                    Helping elect the guy who wants all the Palestinians dead so his son-in-law can have beach front property, while also making everything else worse isn’t the moral high ground you seen to think it is.

                    And no, whatever third option you’re talking about isn’t going to win.

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            Those children will die regardless of who you vote for or if you don’t vote at all. It’s a horrific tragedy that is completely out of anyone who isn’t in power’s control. So instead of worrying about that, worry about what you CAN control - preventing fascists from gaining more power and making things even worse than they already are.

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              No a tragedy is a plane crash. A tragedy is a tornado directly hitting the school gym everyone sheltered in.

              This is a war crime, a massacre, an act so vile that civilized countries have agreed it should not be done, ever.

              And we do not have to be complicit.

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                  We can control our complicity. Politicians can be brought to heel. Saying we can’t do it is just another way of excusing ourselves from worrying about what our leadership is doing.

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              I bet you don’t know who I am, what I went to college for, or where I was before college. Because you’re very wrong.

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                I’ll bet I know what you don’t know. And that’s where Palestine was on the map prior to October 7th.

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        Vote for the guy that’s unfortunately not willing to break with decades worth of support for Israel or the guy who’s said he’d send in ground troops wins.

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          There is actually a third option this time around, not that he’s any better with bird flu on the way. But no it’s never an either/or proposition. You are in fact allowed to leave that spot on the ballot blank.

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              Yet another fallacy meant to coerce votes for bad candidates. I’m not politically disengaged. This is a political choice.

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            As long as you’re voting on everything else on the ballot, fair enough. Also, I’m hoping you don’t live in a battleground state.

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              Oh yeah. It doesn’t work if you don’t vote at all. They have to know they left those votes behind.

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            So do you plan on doing anything about it, or just going to pout about it and feel good about not voting when those people get bombed harder?

            This is just virtue signaling. If you cared about the people you’d want to reduce the harm they’re facing, not try to moralize your bad choice on the Internet.

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              This is a two-way street though. You’d think the democratic establishment would also want to increase their electoral odds in order to reduce harm.

              Like, the stakes are so high, and it’s so weird to see them betting the horse on Israel. It’s frankly irresponsible for Democrats to be playing politics like that at a time like this.

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        That you think everyone here lacks intelligence enough to fall for that nonsense speaks volumes about your own.

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          No I think you’re just being willfully ignorant because it’s easier and those dead kids are over there.

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            Right… the dead kids. The perfect hot button rhetoric to swing around when you want to really drive the point home that “biDeN bAaAD!!”

            You’re seemingly as textbook as one could be.