This is pretty much propaganda. Left political parties do OK in Europe. The point of this post hides the fact that the Dems are not actually Left, they are just Left of the GOP. This isn’t necessarily a criticism, the base voter in the US is right leaning. The Dems just work with what they’ve got, but that doesn’t make them a party of the Left.
There’s a strong part of the European population as a whole who is left leaning but at the same time the EU is a trade union which is center right I’d say
I never once mentioned ‘socialist’ in reference to any political party, because the word is so loaded, particularly for American participants. As to Europe and left leaning political parties, the flavour ebbs and flows as the years change. Sometimes more popular, sometimes less so. Much more so than historical American cases, even with the Dems in charge.
There is a line in US politics that cannot be crossed, even with your ‘centre-left’ party’. The examples are everywhere. Weird wars in third world countries are supported by both the Dems and the GOP (even if softly criticised sometimes by the Dems). Also the rather odd hostility to Cuba which almost the entire world wants ended. Also, the massive mixed messages coming out of the White House on Gaza.
If you are rejoicing in the Liberalism of the US Democratic party as a unique feature in light of the many contradictions I believe that it’s not too far off calling it propperganda on its own terms.
Don’t get me wrong, my own country is another example of faux left. Just as bad, possibly worse?
I agree with much of this post. I’m not complaining about why it is so. You are right about real politic, I just disagree with the suggestion that the Dems are uniquely of the left.
It’s as if collapsing politics into one dimension makes it hard to identify distinctions
Liberalism includes the right of private property, which is definitionally at odds with leftist thought. Points for social liberalism I guess, but when social goals are viewed through the narrow lens of individuality it misses giant, glaring social structures that arguably have more impact over individual liberty than state governance does.
“most successful left party in the world” is a contemptible assertion.
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Dems world be one of the right parties in just about any other county.
They’re also currently pushing far right immigration policies and have ignored doing anything to put abortion rights into law.
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Majority of what would be broken up would still be on the right.
Pointless when they needed to do it nationally, just like with leaving health insurance expansion to states
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This is pretty much propaganda. Left political parties do OK in Europe. The point of this post hides the fact that the Dems are not actually Left, they are just Left of the GOP. This isn’t necessarily a criticism, the base voter in the US is right leaning. The Dems just work with what they’ve got, but that doesn’t make them a party of the Left.
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There’s a strong part of the European population as a whole who is left leaning but at the same time the EU is a trade union which is center right I’d say
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I never once mentioned ‘socialist’ in reference to any political party, because the word is so loaded, particularly for American participants. As to Europe and left leaning political parties, the flavour ebbs and flows as the years change. Sometimes more popular, sometimes less so. Much more so than historical American cases, even with the Dems in charge.
There is a line in US politics that cannot be crossed, even with your ‘centre-left’ party’. The examples are everywhere. Weird wars in third world countries are supported by both the Dems and the GOP (even if softly criticised sometimes by the Dems). Also the rather odd hostility to Cuba which almost the entire world wants ended. Also, the massive mixed messages coming out of the White House on Gaza.
If you are rejoicing in the Liberalism of the US Democratic party as a unique feature in light of the many contradictions I believe that it’s not too far off calling it propperganda on its own terms.
Don’t get me wrong, my own country is another example of faux left. Just as bad, possibly worse?
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I agree with much of this post. I’m not complaining about why it is so. You are right about real politic, I just disagree with the suggestion that the Dems are uniquely of the left.
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Have an update anyway!
It’s as if collapsing politics into one dimension makes it hard to identify distinctions
Liberalism includes the right of private property, which is definitionally at odds with leftist thought. Points for social liberalism I guess, but when social goals are viewed through the narrow lens of individuality it misses giant, glaring social structures that arguably have more impact over individual liberty than state governance does.
“most successful left party in the world” is a contemptible assertion.