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      Hey, if you’d rather have the Republicans open fascists in power, you do you. I question your survival instincts, but still. I just hope you’re just a tiny vocal minority, otherwise we might be all fucked. Or, if you’re not a vocal minority… well, I hope you’re right and I’m wrong.

      We’ll see I guess.

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        Trans people are under attack with our current administration. No reason to fear a future that’s already happening.

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          I love it. It doesn’t matter that Biden has consistently supported trans rights with tangible action during his administration, trans people are still under attack, so it’s Literally All The Same. Like people who ask why there are still fires if there are firefighters.

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            The tangible actions he waited until his final year of the term to enact, that are instantly being challenged by states. That’s not consistent and it’s hardly tangible. You’re not going to tell me that my own struggles are worth ignoring a genocide.

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              So which is it? He hasn’t done anything or he waited too long in his term? How does any of this even compare to the other guy??? Sometimes I wonder if you guys are smoking shrooms because you make no sense

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                He waited too long to do barely anything. It’s okay if reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit.

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                  Even if it was “barely anything” which is not true, how is the alternative better? Address the points without the unnecessary banter.

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                    A token display of support that you know will be annulled, and thus have no consequences, is meaningless. Just keep on speaking for minority groups who dare question Democrat orthodoxy and its tokenism, I’m sure that’ll endear you to them eventually.

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                    Honestly there is no amount of support for trans rights that he could do that would make me overlook Biden’s support of the ongoing genocide in Gaza. Spain just vowed to turn away ships at their ports carrying weapons for Israel and recognize Palestine as a state. The United States is continuing to send bombs, and the only action that has been taken is … threatening to send smaller bombs. It’s absolutely disgusting, and this is what Biden is doing. I am horrified.

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              The tangible actions he waited until his final year of the term to enact,

              It’s funny. I’ve had this song and dance before. When I break out previous actions towards guaranteeing trans rights, it immediately shifts from “It was too late in his term” to “Well it wasn’t enough”.

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                I said both of those things! 😀 It was too late and also not enough! 😀

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                    You’re telling me I’m moving the goalposts I’m telling you the goal was never scored.

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      Assertion: You live in an entrenched two party system.

      Scenario: Only concerning ourselves with voting, which party do you vote for?

      I bring this up as a person in America who has beliefs that do not fit into either of the two parties. Some of my preferred policies are backed by one party, some are backed by the other, some are backed by neither.

      I take action beyond voting like working to switch the voting system to approval voting, but I’m going to limit the discussion to voting because that’s the bare minimum everyone should do and your vote won’t be contextualized by the candidates, it will look identical to all the other votes.

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          A reasonable guess, but no. My politics aren’t relevant, I’m asking you who you’re gonna vote for.

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            Your politics are relevant because if you think that Republicans/Democrats both have enticing policies, your values are so so far from mine that we don’t have the same political goals. So I won’t be engaging in conversation with you as if we did.

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              There are many political tools at your disposal. Voting is one of them. Not voting does not affect change. Unless your political views are “I don’t give a shit” voting is a positive use of your time even if you’re doing other things outside of voting.

              So again I ask: who are you voting for?

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                I never said I wasn’t voting, but also I totally understand why many people do not. I already told you I don’t want to chat about this, because I think you and I aren’t aligned whatsoever and it’s useless to discuss political strategy. It’s weird that you keep demanding I answer a question … like I care?? About answering you?

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                  It’s not about me, it’s about giving the audience more information to work with when attempting to understand your arguments.