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    You’re willing to let innocent people die so you can try again in the next election? Bye, liberal.

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          i think we build local community, we take care of each other and survive, we learn about revolutionary spontaneity, and we bide our time until the moment is right

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            That’s my thought as well. Collect allies, try to dispel non-allies of their propaganda (very hard), create microcosms that gradually become bigger movements that eventually consume the state

            But in the meantime, it’s hard not to consider the situation dire and urgent on a grand scale when we see people being tortured, killed, and subjugated for the interests of a privileged few. It’s easy for me to sit behind my keyboard and tell others what they “should” do. It’s another thing entirely to be a person with friends and loved ones who’ve been directly harmed by our leaders, or to see it from their point of view.

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              it is hard. it is dire and urgent. but to the original post, non-voting doesn’t currently buy any power (though that may change), and trump is worse, so I’m still going to vote biden while supporting my communities and helping those who have been harmed locally

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                That’s fine. That’s one opinion about how to cope with the current situation, and I won’t tell you otherwise. I tend to agree.

                I just don’t want happening here what I see in the politics communities on some other instances where people are disparaged, shouted down, or even dehumanized for expressing so much as a hesitancy to vote for Biden. I want to take care that this doesn’t happen here. I firmly believe that if anything, such tactics only serve to discourage people from voting.

                We’ve had multiple posts in this community from people describing why they’re choosing to vote Biden that don’t undermine our grave concerns about him in the process. I’ve always welcomed people to make such posts.

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                  I’m not American, but you make some very good points. Thank you for taking the time to explain it to that other person

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                    hey, how is your part of the world? I’m trying to maintain hope that the rest of the world is going to be okay [under the approximation that America will soon be doing very poorly]

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        I know there are many groups suffering under Biden’s leadership, and no I’m not sure how to stop that

        I speak up, I send money, I support the protestors, and I’m very involved locally

        I’d suggest local involvemen. We’ve helped undocumented workers evade deportation, tried to establish community support networks, etc.

        But as far as dismantling the United States so we can solve the actual problem? Yeah, we need to work on that

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        It is clear you don’t consider Palestinians, immigrants, or poor Americans worthy of allyship. Fuck out of here with this strawman version of me you’ve created.

        Bidens not even an ally. You think someone who is willing to torture people and starve children is going to do fuckall to protect us LGBTQIA+ people?