Just putting this up to contrast with this post and because Eli Valley is a great political cartoonist.

  • whoreticulture
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    Now you’re just conflating young people with leftists? And there are structural reasons young people don’t vote as much, in the US people don’t get time off for voting. That impacts young people of any political leaning. And white people vote at way higher rates than other races? Probably due to the structural barriers to voting?

    Where are you getting these talking points for real

    • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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      1. Millenials and Zoomers bend significantly to the left of previous cohorts

      2. structural barriers does not excuse 27% turnout being considered an unusually good year. In fact it makes the case even further that these kids ought to be out in force to speak for the folks who are actually getting marginalized by systemic barriers to voting and that choosing not to is a letting down of others they need to be answering for.

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        Younger generations lean left, but not nearly enough to conflate them. Especially since there are plenty of older folks who are lefty as well. To make the point you’re trying to make, you would have to show that leftist voters vote less often than voters of other political leanings in the same demographic.

        Younger people have less money than older generations, less seniority at work that lets them take time off. If you have to pick between making rent or voting, a lot of people are going to pick rent. Kind of fucked up for you to just dismiss structural barriers out of hand, it’s people like you who perpetuate these problems you claim to care about. You want to solve a problem you look at the underlying system, blaming individuals, especially those who already have the least money, power, and political influence, rarely does any good.

        Your arguments just feel like you want to be mad at youngsters. Like the same kind of stuff people stay about the protestors, calling them entitled rich kids. It’s really gross and you don’t have any evidence to back your claims, nor do you present any solutions. And you’d probably be mad if the leftist kids came out and didn’t vote for the person you wanted.

        How about instead of just trying to blame the youth, you get mad at the wealthy people who have convinced you to turn against your own people just because they are younger than you? Get mad at the centrist Dems who vote for any Democrat placed in front of them, no matter how reprehensible their politics? Where are you getting these anti-youth leftist talking points I seriously want to know.