• @vzq
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    3 months ago

    “But what about the Americans” is literally the weakest argument in this context.

    Police violence against minorities is happening right now in our cities. It’s not just an American problem, despite what you might think if your watch the news.

    That is why I said, this is Europe.

    • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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      63 months ago

      “But what about the Americans” is literally the weakest argument in this context.

      In most contexts it would be a whataboutism, yes, but not this specific one.

      Your comment consisted only of characterizing it as a specifically European problem, which my reply is a valid refutation of.

      Police violence against minorities is happening right now in our cities. It’s not just an American problem

      Nobody’s claiming otherwise.

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        Your comment consisted only of characterizing it as a specifically European problem

        No I did not.

        Should I have said “this is Europe too”?

        Let me guess, you think I should also say “black lives matter too”?

        Your transparent and instrumental deliberate misinterpretation of my words is your concern, not mine.

        • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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          53 months ago

          “This happens in all of Europe, not just Spain” would have been better, if that’s what you meant to say.

          Your transparent and instrumental deliberate misinterpretation of my words is your concern, not mine.

          I’m not a mind reader. I replied to the most likely intended meaning based on the words used. If you wanted to say something else, you should have used other words.

          • @vzq
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            33 months ago

            I told you what I mean, and still you seek to quarrel with me. Why?

              • @vzq
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                43 months ago

                Listen. I’m going to explain it to you like you are five.

                “This is America” is a phrase often used to lament police misconduct in the US. By adapting it I explicitly referenced US police misconduct, thereby saying “we have this problem too”. Only if you are ignorant or in bad faith could you interpret this explicit reference to the African American struggle against police violence as “this happens only in Europe”.

                If there are mistaken assumptions they are yours and yours alone.

                • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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                  23 months ago

                  That’s a hell of a lot to expect people to infer from 3 words, especially when the phase you’re adapting IS specifically about it being especially bad in America compared to everywhere else, which it is.

                  • @vzq
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                    23 months ago

                    Thoughts really glide off you like water off a duck huh?

                • @AlexS@feddit.de
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                  12 months ago

                  Upvote for explaining the reference. But to expect the average reader to know that is a bit far stretched.