Edit: Blocked the author’s name, because it’s not my tumblr. I didn’t expect so many people to misinterpret it and respond in this way.

Edit 2: This is not from the same author, but it’s a reply to them. I think it might help clarify the post for those that are confused:

I normally don’t worry about usernames on tumblr, but since there’ve been some really out-of-pocket misconceptions in the thread, I don’t want anyone to harass them.

  • LinkOpensChest.wavOP
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    Where’s it say “just convince all Israelites to leave”?

    • Johanno
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      Well I see that it isn’t there written, but we have the one sided description of Israel invading Palestinian land and occupying it for 76 years.

      And then the recommendation to remove anti-semitism in other countries.

      This does imply that once other countries are safe the Israeli should leave.

      Also in my opinion if a country occupies an area for that long it belongs to them. No it isn’t fair and yes they took it by force. However they would not had to fight a war if they weren’t attacked by all surrounding countries.

      • LinkOpensChest.wavOP
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        44 months ago

        This does imply that once other countries are safe the Israeli should leave.

        I must have accidentally eaten something trippy because I’ve read so many texts and datasets in my life, and how you are extrapolating this is beyond me.

        Also in my opinion if a country occupies an area for that long it belongs to them

        So then for example, you agree that the US and Canada should continue engaging in the displacement and still ongoing genocide of Native Americans? Can you clarify this statement, please?

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          Well did the native Americans successfully claimed land their own and have a country that is recognised by other countries on the world?

          No? Sucks for them. I don’t support genocide and shit like that.

          In order to have a country and accepted borders you need other countries that recognise it. The borders then get defined by contracts or more often by war.

          • LinkOpensChest.wavOP
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            34 months ago

            Thank you for the clarification. I have nothing further to discuss with you.

          • @The_Sasswagon@beehaw.org
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            The Americas are, as a continent, the site of mass genocide at the hands of Europeans. The intent was to eliminate the native peoples and their cultures, and this intent is both clear and the genocide is ongoing.

            This is the big stick philosophy you say you support, it commits atrocities on other human beings in the name of expansion, extraction, and recognition, and unfortunately the philosophy dominates many of our ways of life.

            That doesn’t mean it’s good, or right, or that it is the only way. We should hold ourselves to the standard we want to live by so we can break the cycles of abuse, and we should talk to each other and educate one another so we can deliver the best version of ourselves.

            Consider that not all people have always lived with modern ideas of property, nations, and hierarchy. These are, in the grand scheme of human history, pretty insignificant when faced with the vast array of societies and beliefs shared by people over thousands of years. All that is to say domination is not inevitable or necessary, we can choose to do otherwise and all be better off for it.

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      When it says “Jewish people need a place to live so make every country safe for them”.

      If that’s not the solution being proposed then what solution is it proposing?

      If a solution isnt being proposed, then maybe the problem isn’t that simple.

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        That’s not referring to displacing people though, now is it? Don’t you agree that we should address antisemitism in other nations? One branch of my family tree is Jewish, and you can rest assured I want them to feel safe here in the US.

        Edit: This is a troll

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          That’s not referring to displacing people though, now is it? Don’t you agree that we should address antisemitism in other nations?

          How is that a solution to the current situation?

          How about we make it so that everyone in every country has their basic needs met? Yeah that would be great, it’s also an irrelevant point to bring up while discussing how “simple” the Israel Palestine situation is.

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            What’s simple is concluding that Israel is committing genocide. What’s simple is arriving at the conclusion that we shouldn’t try to “both sides” this situation when one state is clearly the oppressor.

            Imagine trying to “both sides” the indigenous situation in the US and Canada, or similarly trying to “both sides” Nazi Germany in the 1930s and 40s. Trying to “both sides” North and South Korea.

            There’s clearly one state that’s been consistently in the wrong, that even celebrates its atrocities.

            Edit: This is a troll

            • @masterspace@lemmy.ca
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              34 months ago

              There’s clearly one state that’s been consistently in the wrong, that even celebrates its atrocities.

              Bruh, Hamas celebrated the mass rape and murder of civilians. I’m as angry at Israel’s response as the next person but you need to pull your head out of your ass if you think this is entirely one sided.

      • LinkOpensChest.wavOP
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        This is a disaster! It’s almost like the comment thread is from an entirely different post!