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  • Snot Flickerman
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    7 months ago

    Fine, I got it wrong. Happy? I still think its a fucking joke that it wouldn’t apply in this instance, because it literally involves them degrading service for certain users over others.

    • @LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      yes, actually! its a positive thing when people can admit that. I was just getting frustrated that you were beating around the bush when you were wrong. look, I, too, believe in net neutrality and companies not being anti competive dick holes, but we gotta use the right words for things or else people start mixing issues up and it weakens the issue as a whole when people start confusing it with other things.

      • Snot Flickerman
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        7 months ago

        I disagree because language is imperfect and everyone has their own connotations for words and ideas, no matter what you do. You can’t unmake that part of humanity, where certain words and ideas make us feel things. I think the focus on “words of the law” over “spirit of the law” is how America has turned into a fucking shithole by letting every scumfuck get away with stuff that’s “within the letter of the law” because people stopped giving a fucking shit about the “spirit of the law.” In some countries, they don’t go by specific wording, but do go with the spirit of the law. That matters. Also, let’s not even get into how language evolves and the idea that it is in any way static is a real big joke.

        So good that you’re happy, and I think the focus on “the right words” is absurd. We’re literally facing rising fascism from people who abuse words.

        EDIT: Amazon gained its market position because monopoly law doesn’t account for a business that builds its monopoly through not making a profit for nearly 15 years. Amazon is now even bigger than Walmart when it comes to sales, and absolutely dominates the market, but because the letter of the law didn’t expect a company to run on growth and losing money until it was large enough to dominate, nothing was done until they were already in a monopoly position. Using “clear words” left a gaping fucking hole for that shit to happen.

        • @LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world
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          17 months ago

          okay, but we’re talking about net neutrality and how you got it wrong. it’s not about how strict I’m interpreting things or not. there’s no ambiguity in the definition here. you are NOT talking about net neutrality. it indeed does matter whether or not you’re using the right words here because you’re using them wrong. you can’t say apple is an orange, then when people say it’s not the same, you can’t say: well… it’s in the spirit of an apple because it’s a fruit. we’re not talking linguistics here either. you’re continuing to beat around the bush. you’re using some no true Scottsman fallacy here. you can’t say the true definition of something should include something that’s not in the definition just because you’re wrong. that’s not an argument.

          • Snot Flickerman
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            7 months ago

            I already agreed that I made a mistake.

            You made a new argument about the use of words, I refuted it, not in relation to the original argument. I apologize if I was not clear on that.