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      Given a terrorist straps babies onto their bodies and begins attacking people. Is it morally wrong to stop the terrorist with force or will anything to stop him from massacring people is a war crime?

      officer, you need to get better material you’re literally paraphrasing a comic villain for some dumbass thought experiment instead of actual reality. -that reality being that the european settler state holds all the cards and you’re victim blaming the people resisting.

      you would literally defend anything though because you’re either getting paid to push this shit ignorantly or are someone who belongs at the bottom of a pit.

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        Here’s a fun “tickle your brain” moment. How many Israelis are descendants of ethnically cleansed Jews from other middle eastern states? The other half of the catastrophe that Hamas supporters really don’t want to talk about.

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          Yes, europe making a colony of the people it ethnically cleansed to do their dirty work on an entirely different set of people is really gross, glad we agree.

          Israel could stop being an ethnostate, instead of disenfranchising non-jews and sterilizing non-white jews.

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            Isn’t just about 20% of the Israeli population Arab? Again: Europe didn’t ethnically cleanse the Middle East. That’d be the belligerents of ‘48 who went from sizable Jewish populations to populations you can count on a hand. You know, a good ol’ fashioned ethnic cleansing.

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              Isn’t just about 20% of the Israeli population Arab?

              do they get to vote the same as Jews?

              Europeans are just projecting their guilt and instrumentalizing the very people they ethnically cleansed to do their dirty work. It’s sick.

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                Yes… If you’re an Israeli citizen, you’re an Israeli citizen. There’s a sizable proportion of Arabs in Israel, particularly East Jerusalem who chose to hold Jordan citizenship rather than Israeli, and cannot vote.

                Shit, if the Palestinian Arabs who could vote, did, Bibi would likely not be in power and things may have turned out differently.

                https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/10/18/arab-citizens-of-israel-hold-the-key-to-next-months-election/

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                    … You don’t understand this conflict at all, do you? Bibi’s a bastard, but if eligible-to-vote Arab citizens of Israel showed up to vote against the shitheels anywhere near as well as the shitbag American Christian settler contingent, his party could not have formed a government and, since he is currently charged with corruption, his competitor parties wouldn’t have fallen in line to give him a joint government.

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          you would literally defend anything though because you’re either getting paid to push this shit ignorantly or are someone who belongs at the bottom of a pit.

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              Totally not a talking points machine that has never had an original thought.

              Judging from the shit you’re pumping out this is also projection.

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                  The American state bombs hospitals, weddings, murders civilians in its two decade long wars and kills people via collective punishment ‘sanctions’, how is terrorism somehow different?

                  The occupation forces are doing a genocide and you’re pissing your diaper over terrorism fuck you