• @SkyeStarfall
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    159 months ago

    Why does making things fair for everyone mean punishing the currently privileged people to you?

      • You can’t see that the more people cycle or the more bus lanes we have also means less cars.

        Try framing it like this. Every time you see a cyclist remember that’s one less car. Or a bus could be 20-50 less cars on the road.

          • @SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz
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            39 months ago

            Well, never is a bit of a strong word here. Copenhagen and Amsterdam have something to say about that. Now I’m not a fuckcars person, but I do see the value for those places. I am also aware that it works there because of multiple factors that do not necessarily translate well to other places, not just plopping a bike lane and hoping people won’t just use it for parking their cars. Oslo, for instance does not have the same infrastructure for bikes as Copenhagen does, presumably because they get worse winters?

            I’ll say this, though, I was extremely surprised to see a traffic jam on the bike lane and no jam on the car lane.

          • Have you ever been to London? Because we have many many cycle lanes and it does help the flow of traffic.

            Ever heard of Amsterdam?

            I’m happy to be shown some examples to the contrary though.