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Content warning: EFF, kiwifarms, death, harassment, libertarianism, free speech absolutism

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  • 𝓹𝓻𝓲𝓷𝓬𝓮𝓼𝓼English
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    1 year ago

    I’m with HE on this one. KF is absolutely against their ToS, and if the various middle providers between HE and KF aren’t going to step in, they’re within their rights to drop that traffic.

    At this level the Internet is still somewhat decentralized. KF can continue to find other hosts and ISPs that condone their horror, and said providers and peers have the right to drop them for being terrible. KF could build a datacenter, register their own ASN, negotiate peering agreements, broadcast routes, and other providers could still refuse to peer with them. I think this is good, actually.

    but what about The Slippery Slope? next conservatives will be making ISPs take down vulnerable minorities! shouldn’t legislation be handling this?

    The conservative folks are already attacking LGBTQ+ and any other minorities they want via legislation. Why would anyone think this is a good argument?

      • 𝓹𝓻𝓲𝓷𝓬𝓮𝓼𝓼English
        1·
        1 year ago

        Ethics aside, piracy is illegal, and most service providers include a clause that you can’t do illegal shit with their service. Even utilities providers aren’t immune to “we live in a society with, like, laws and stuff”. Taking them out of private companies’ hands won’t do anything about that.

        And kiwifarms aren’t doing piracy, harming (maybe) the profit margin of some megacorp. They’re enabling and encouraging the harm of other vulnerable people, up to their deaths. If your electricty provider has an acceptable use policy that contains “don’t use the electricity we give you to hunt and kill your enemies” and you Do That, again and again, they’re within their rights (and arguably, ethically obligated) to stop you electrocuting people with the electricty they distribute.

        This isn’t “Hurricane Electric haet kiwifarms”; this is KF abusing the service HE provides to the detriment of both society at large and other members of the Internet ecosystem.