I figured since their admin has asked them to stop participating over here it may be worthwhile to get a new discussion going that is primarily blahaj. I’m almost certain they’ll still be upvoting so keep that in mind as that may skew things. Worthwhile to check in from instances that have already defederated them. The previous thread definitely left a bad taste in my mouth but what do y’all think?

Old thread can be found here

EDIT: With regards to the post on new federation guidelines here: https://hexbear.net/post/352119

The current top comment is:

Every instance that has talked shit and got dogpiled should be thanking us for breathing some life into their dead and boring ass websites.

  • amethystEnglish
    20·
    1 year ago

    I can’t think of anything less trans-friendly than mandatory pronoun marking.

    I quite liked this quote from Isabel Fall (more about identity than pronouns specifically, but still related!)

    “We make boxes that seem to enclose a satisfying number of human experiences, and then we put labels on those and argue about them instead,” she says. “The boxes change over time, according to a process which is governed by, as far as I can tell, cycles of human suffering: We realize that forcing people into the last set of boxes was painful and wrong, we wring our hands, we fold up some new boxes and assure ourselves that this time we got it right, or at least right enough for now. Because we need the boxes to argue over. I do not want to be in a box. I want to sift through your fingers, to vanish, to be unseen.”

    • ZeroEcksEnglish
      27·
      1 year ago

      They basically just make it required so you can’t tell who is trans, and the trans users support it so I don’t really have an issue with it.

    • MelmiEnglish
      19·
      1 year ago

      I think mandatory pronoun marking is a bad thing in IRL spaces, but in online spaces it’s probably less of a big deal, especially when neopronouns or even None is an acceptable answer.

    • Erika2rsisEnglish
      19·
      1 year ago

      I essentially agree with the quote, but I can think of plenty of things that are less trans friendly than a digital pronoun circle. My point is that there is a very large trans population on Hexbear, and we can only assume that the trans population there are also universally the types of trans people who are open to sharing their pronouns publicly anyways — or else they would most likely just join a different instance without that requirement.