• just_browsing@reddthat.com
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                If Russia wanted to end the war so bad they could just leave. Ukraine doesn’t have that option.

                Russia invaded Ukraine to gain new territory. If you want the war to end as it stands now, then you’re okay with giving up land and the people they’ve kidnapped from it to a fascist regime in a war of aggression. That’s supporting a fascist government.

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                  Okay but instead of making infantile suggestions that no one with any sort of adult mind think is even possible, including the US and Ukrainian Militaries, why don’t we talk about actually likely ways to end the war? Why are the two choices perpetual war and unilateral surrender? It sounds an awful lot like you want to fight “to the last Ukrainian”, to me.

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                    Hmm, seems like you’re arguing in good faith.

                    I never said those are the only two choices, but every peace deal that Russia has come to the table with either includes ceding large amounts of territory or giving up control over their government. Do you think the Ukrainian people would find any of that acceptable after everything Russia has put them through?

                    Sounds an awful lot like you just want fascist Russia to conquer Ukraine.

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                    That all depends on what you’d consider to be acceptable terms of a peace deal. Is it a deal that rewards the aggressors for their aggression?