kbin has an issue at the moment. As a software platform, it was not ready for the huge influx of users that came with the reddit migration.
As such, it doesn’t have robust moderation tools, and one of the biggest issues is that an instance can only have a single admin. In the case of kbin.social, the admin is also the lead dev of the kbin software project as a whole.
I love kbin, I love the project and what it stands for, and I think ernest has created an amazing platform that I has more potential than lemmy. But in the here and now, kbin.social is woefully under moderated. It has been a large source of spam, and harbours active transphobes and transphobic communities that are effectively unmoderated.
So, Blåhaj Lemmy folk, I’m seeking your feedback. Would you rather we defederate until the kbin moderation tools are improved, or stay connected and deal with the bigotry and spam on our end as best we can?
See this thread on kbin.social for a ongoing discussion about the issue https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/304907
Edit - So far, it seems that most of the spam etc isn’t making it through to people, which is great! It means we can keep things going as they are without it impacting people too much. Please use this thread to let me know if that changes though
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Please note, this discussion is intended for Blåhaj Lemmy users to provide feedback. Top Level comments made from instances other than Blåhaj Lemmy will be removed. If you are from an external instance, you are welcome to engage in the discussion, but I request that you do so in reply to other comments.
Depends on how much bigotry and spam comes from this instance.
And that’s why I’m asking :)
If you’re not seeing spam or abuse, then we’re probably doing ok. But if you are seeing it and it’s impacting your experience, that’s what I’d like to know about
May I ask why you posted this? Was there a post/community/behavior that you saw that was questionable?
I ask because I don’t think I’ve seen (yet) any offending posts from kbin so I was quite surprised to read your post. But then again I’m on smaller instances so maybe I don’t see everything you guys see. :)
Most of the spam bots I see come from kbin.social, but I am purging them and their history as soon as they’re reported.
Other than that, it’s more trying to pro-actively address an issue with bigotry, because kbin.social is effectively unmoderated at the moment, and unmoderated instances full of bigots have been a problem before.
At the moment, it’s not a huge problem on kbin.social though, hence the discussion, rather than outright defederation
Hey. Thank you for responding. I tried deleting my comment since I reread your post and you were pretty clear why you were considering it. It looks like the delete request didn’t push through on your end (it’s happened before to me lol). My bad - I sometimes get ahead of myself. 😅
And yes, I definitely understand (and agree) why this is concerning to you. Bigotry really is a big problem, imho. I do hope it doesn’t become a big problem on kbin.
Again, thanks for responding. Have a great day! :)
I think that defederating should be left as a last-resort option. The more instances we have in Lemmy communicating between each other, the better (unless Nazis/bigots/etc).
The problem is, that’s where we are
As far as I understand, there are simply more of them coming from kbin, not most of them.
I was speaking more about instances that are specifically made to host such users or encourage such behaviour.