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    If you drive down far enough, I don’t think “wet” even remains to be a property something can have. As was mentioned, what is wetness to an individual molecule? It must be surrounded? Are all molecules “wet” with air, then?

    “Wet” as a concept I think is really only useful to people communicating to each other what to expect. For instance, if I asked what was in the fridge, and you said “nothing”, it would be weird if I came to correct you: “duh, actually, there is a speck of dust in the corner. And not only that, it’s actually completely full! Of air.” This is because what you meant was, “to eat.”

    A “wet” towel will feel damp and watery to a person picking it up in a way almost indistinguishable from water itself, and this is enough to say that both are wet. But, if I had spilled water, and you wanted to know how many things had gotten wet—well, these are a different set of expectations, and so maybe I wouldn’t count the water.

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      Are all molecules “wet” with air, then?

      If we come up with a definition for this process, then yes, why not.

      A “wet” towel will feel damp and watery to a person picking it up in a way almost indistinguishable from water itself, and this is enough to say that both are wet.

      But you see, if I ask you for a wet towel, it will sound normal. If I’d ask you for wet water, I’d look mentally questionable

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        If I’d ask you for wet water, I’d look mentally questionable.

        I think this is because water is always wet. It’s a bit redundant.

        That is, unless,

        We had a lot of ice. And, “wet water” was a very silly way of asking for the melted kind. I might think you bumped your head, but I would know what you meant.

        “Is water wet” is not a complete question. I don’t know what the asker’s expectations are, so a satisfying answer is not really possible.

        This is not too different from the ship of theseus being a difficult, brainteasing paradox until you clarify what exactly is meant by “is the ship of theseus.” “Which of these two boats is registered to me by the boat authority” is a much simpler question to answer.

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          Sorry I checked out the argument I started, but I like both your points, just yours a bit more. I think I’m common nomenclature damp is a level of wetness. Something may be “dry” to the senses but still contain a water content of double digits percentages, considering if our skin is less moist. That being said, I’m sorry I caused anyone any heartache. But I do love a semantics argument.

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            16 hours ago

            I’m sure it was bound to start whether it was you or not, haha. This is just one of those questions.

            I’m not even really participating as much as I am just trying to spread a bit of philosophy. I think I said this elsewhere, but people often reach for science and facts to sort questions like these long before philosophy, which I find a bit sad because it’s really powerful.