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        Synonym: wetting

        This might just be me, but I’ll take a physical definition with sources over a dictionary example sentence. But the meaning of words is fluid, like how “literally” now also means “figuratively”, so if you don’t, that’s okay. In scientific literature, where precise language matters, “wet”, “wetness”, “wettability” and “wetting” all refer to the process I’ve linked, however.

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          This might just be me, but I’ll take a physical definition with sources over a dictionary example sentence.

          What you’re calling “a physical definition with sources” would be more accurately as an online encyclopedia entry.

          Wikipedia is a free online encyclopedia, written and maintained by a community of volunteers, known as Wikipedians, through open collaboration and the wiki software MediaWiki.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia

          Generally speaking, encyclopedia articles focus on factual information concerning the subject named in the article’s title; this is unlike dictionary entries, which focus on linguistic information about words, such as their etymology, meaning, pronunciation, use, and grammatical forms.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encyclopedia

          In other words, it’s just you.

          But the meaning of words is fluid,

          So then what are we arguing about? In common definition, as in the dictionary example from the source you i guess now regret linking, water is wet.

          If you choose to define “wet” differently or in specific scientific contexts maybe water isn’t wet.

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            What you’re calling “a physical definition with sources” would be more accurately as an online encyclopedia entry.

            Alright, sure. L. D. Landau, E. M. Lishitz: Course on Theoretical Physics 5: Statistical Physics, English translation 1951, p. 467ff, subchapter Wetting.

            This is established science. I just thought Wikipedia might be an easier introduction.

            Generally speaking, encyclopedia articles focus on factual information concerning the subject named in the article’s title; this is unlike dictionary entries, which focus on linguistic information about words, such as their etymology, meaning, pronunciation, use, and grammatical forms.

            I don’t know what point you’re trying to make.

            as in the dictionary example from the source you i guess now regret linking, water is wet.

            What? I legit don’t understand what you’re trying to say. You linked a user-curated dictionary and pretended that’s the be-all, end-all of definitions. I can do that as well, even if PhilosophyTube is going to beat my ass for it:

            https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/wet

            But I was talking about the scientific background of the term. This is not some hyper-specific term, but how it’s used in almost* all of science.

            *(The other somewhat common use is as a synonym of “humid”, often used in climate amd atmospheric science. Which is irrelevant in the discussion “is water wet”)

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              Alright, sure. L. D. Landau, E. M. Lishitz: Course on Theoretical Physics 5: Statistical Physics, English translation 1951, p. 467ff, subchapter Wetting.

              I’m lost as to why you are citing this.

              This is established science. I just thought Wikipedia might be an easier introduction.

              Nobody throughout this thread is using specific jargon from the field of statistical physics.

              We’re simply discussing what the word “wet” means. I am not interested in your niche scientific subchapter on “wetting” in a 1951 theoretical physics textbook.

              I don’t know what point you’re trying to make.

              What that wikipedia article is explaining is that if you are interested in the meaning of a word and not just factual information about it, an encyclopedia (wikipedia) entry is the wrong place to look because “unlike a dictionary”, it’s not focused on the meaning of words.

              What? I legit don’t understand what you’re trying to say. You linked a user-curated dictionary and pretended that’s the be-all, end-all of definitions.

              Uh, you linked it. Thats your source. I just used it because you linked it as a source you trust?

              You accidentally linked “wetting”, but if you look at link you sent and go to the top of the page where it says

              For other uses of ‘Wet’, see Wet (disambiguation)

              And then click that and you’ll see

              Look up wet, wetness, or wetting in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.

              It’s literally just 2 clicks inside the source you linked as the end-all, be-all lmao.

              You’re right, I wouldn’t have just linked a dictionary entry as a thought ending cliche until you tried to and I showed you what your own source was saying about it.

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                I have no actual stake in this discussion beyond the fun of arguing. I could continue, for example by pointing out that in the article about “Encyclopedia” you linked it says

                There are some broad differences between encyclopedias and dictionaries. Most noticeably, encyclopedia articles are longer, fuller and more thorough than entries in most general-purpose dictionaries.[3][20] There are differences in content as well. Generally speaking, dictionaries provide linguistic information about words themselves, while encyclopedias focus more on the things for which those words stand.[6][7][8][9]

                But I get the feeling you’re taking this too seriously, and I’m not enjoying this anymore. So let’s end it here, I hope you have a good day!