• Fredthefishlord
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    1 day ago

    You pretending they do not exist does not change reality. Presidential is not the only race, nor is it even the most important overall

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      Pretending that the primaries (when they happen at all) are fair doesn’t mean they are.

      The party went to court and successfully argued that they don’t have to run honest primaries. Anyone who suggests primaries as a means to end the entrenched conservative hegemony in democratic party leadership knows better and is gloating.

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        16 hours ago

        So your response is that you’d rather watch the country burn in hell than vote democratic to stave it off?

        Anyone who suggests primaries as a means to end the entrenched conservative hegemony in democratic party leadership knows better and is gloating.

        Fair? When did I say fair? They’re not fair. But, the votes in them are not rigged.

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          So your response is that you’d rather watch the country burn in hell than vote democratic to stave it off?

          All criticism of your shitty worthless republican-lite party does not mean advocacy for voting for the slightly worse party it keeps trying to be.

          Fair? When did I say fair? They’re not fair. But, the votes in them are not rigged.

          Don’t need to rig the vote if you sue to keep challengers off the ballot and then decide not to hold primaries at all.

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            All criticism of your shitty worthless republican-lite party does not mean advocacy for voting for the slightly worse party it keeps trying to be.

            ,yes? that’s literally my issue. It’s advocating to not vote, which is russian propaganda driven and only serves to reduce real ability to fight fascism in favor of grandstanding online as a keyboard warrior.

            Don’t need to rig the vote if you sue to keep challengers off the ballot and then decide not to hold primaries at all.

            That is not a common practice. It happens, yes. But it’s not common

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              ,yes? that’s literally my issue. It’s advocating to not vote, which is russian propaganda driven and only serves to reduce real ability to fight fascism in favor of grandstanding online as a keyboard warrior.

              No, criticism of your party isn’t advocacy for not voting either.

              That is not a common practice. It happens, yes. But it’s not common

              not common enough for you.

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                7 hours ago

                Also like, you know the court technicality removals are just that, on technicalities as opposed to just no justification…

                No, criticism of your party isn’t advocacy for not voting either.

                Then what is your point, man. You want to advocate for 3p, which is the same as not voting until we get ranked choice?

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                  Also like, you know the court technicality removals are just that, on technicalities as opposed to just no justification…

                  The party didn’t have to sue. They chose to.

                  You want to advocate for 3p, which is the same as not voting until we get ranked choice?

                  I want to be able to criticize the democratic party without loyalists accusing me of being a trumpist, a russian, a nonvoter, or a 3rd party voter. Some people have criticism without being nefarious fifth columnists.

                  And ranked choice is a pipe dream. Few people elected under the current system are going to radically alter the system that put them into office. Particularly those in the party whose messaging for the past dozen years or so has been “we’re second worst but voting for someone that might better represent you is throwing your vote away lol!”