• Leraje
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    4 hours ago

    Mate, assuming youre an American, whatever you need to feel better about your inaction is up to you

    Bottom line: once an Americans ability to vote is gone all your catchphrases mean nothing. The fascist is the one who will take that action.

    American involvement in the middle east has worsened the situation for Palestinians since Trump was elected. That doesn’t mean Biden was anything but an awful leader but Trump is worse. Way way worse. Everything he does both foreign and domestic was enabled by those who both voted for him and those who refused to vote against him.

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      American involvement in the middle east has worsened the situation for Palestinians since Trump was elected.

      No it hasn’t, you were just a genocide denier when it was your team doing it. In that sense, the situation is better under Trump because at least BlueMaga shitlibs like you are not denying their genocide anymore.

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      I’m not american, and I don’t ‘need to feel better’, I’m glad that country is destroying itself since they are all horrible, as I explained.

      American involvement in the middle east has worsened the situation for Palestinians since Trump was elected.

      You must be joking, there was nothing left for him to bomb in Palestine and he ruthlessly bombed Yemen, more than Trump did.
      I give facts, they are not catchphrases as you demeaningly call it.
      All you got is “Trump is worse”.
      You should move there, you fit right in with the smug and sanctimonius libs shifting blame and vile insults at leftists for what they themselves caused.

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        If you genuinely think things aren’t worse under Trump whilst simultaneously claiming you speak facts then I don’t know that you are capable of reason. Couple that with your apologia for excusing voting against fascism and its very obvious you’re about as left wing as Thatcher wasn’t.

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          Worse for whom?

          Things haven’t changed a bit for my indigenous neighbors. They are being fucked over just as hard now, as before…

          My black neighbors have noticed just as much now as before, cops still abusing their community and their still being ignored economically.

          So, worse for white people? Sure.

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            Worse for non cis people, worse for women, worse for education, worse for immigrants, worse for people in countries being directly and indirectly threatened by your fascist president. Worse for people watching him dismantle all opposition and ultimately worse for anyone who thinks they’re going to be able to protest any of this. The fact he hasn’t made things worse for your neighbours is because he hasn’t got around to it yet. Were less than 6 months in.

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              Better for all the people who were already being brutalized by the USA empire and are happy to see it collapse though.

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              The reason it’s not worse for my neighbors, is because they were already under attack by your beloved liberal republic, and have been for centuries.

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          And there it is, “if you dare question my genocide denial, you aren’t capable of reason!”

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          They are worse for themselves, that’s all, and all they care about.
          The entirety of the Dems program was “let us continue to be shitty and also ignore that little genocide… or you get Trump and expensive eggs!”
          And again you are incapable of understanding voting for them is not “voting against fascism”, since they both are and continuing the status quo BS it what got them in this position in the first place. I have zero sympathy for them.
          And you certainly should not have an opinion on me being left.
          What are you, some English guy voting for Kid Starver and larping as a leftist?
          Really, don’t bother replying, no use in talking to obstinate people.

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            Try and parse a bit of reality. By enabling fascism by voting for it or refusing to vote against it you make the situation worse for both those in Palestine and also remove your ability to vote out the person doing this.

            And here’s you going on about eggs.

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              you make the situation worse for both those in Palestine

              No, you were just a genocide denier when it was your team doing it.

              also remove your ability to vote out the person doing this.

              Your whole complaint is that people didn’t vote for the people doing this.

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          Dude, I’m doubting you are capable of reason. Compare what you wrote:-

          If you genuinely think things aren’t worse under Trump

          What you are responding to.

          American involvement in the middle east has worsened the situation for Palestinians since Trump was elected. That doesn’t mean Biden was anything but an awful leader but Trump is worse. Way way worse.

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            3 hours ago

            Those were both me. What’s your point?

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                No, you’re wrong. Jusr twice.

                If you refuse to vote against a fascist you support the fascist. Because the fascist doesn’t care if you endorse him. Refusing to stand up to him brings about the exact same result.