All 3 points are wrong.
1 There is no status quo, they have demonstrably both gone further right. Which brings me to 2
2 There is only fascism and fascism-light. Genocide Joe also built the wall, deported massively more people:
Bombed civilians in Yemen and displaced half a million people there for his genocidal proxy.
And many mor scummy thing.
3 They will never have a revolution, only placate Trump and move even further to the right to win back some votes.
And people will take it, americans are pacified and harmless, some lame protests are not ‘revolution’.
Gullible AF as shown by the massive upvotes you get from the many libs here.
They will all be hearded back into the status quo sytem by Bernie or AOC the new sheepdog puppy in training to prevent revolution or a valid 3rd party.
Sad that even a non-american as yourself, not confined to thinking inside the box can be this wrong.
The other side of the uniparty thinks like you and is refusing to admit their wrongs, how bad do you have to be to not be an alternative to fascists? All of them get what they deserve.
Mate, assuming youre an American, whatever you need to feel better about your inaction is up to you
Bottom line: once an Americans ability to vote is gone all your catchphrases mean nothing. The fascist is the one who will take that action.
American involvement in the middle east has worsened the situation for Palestinians since Trump was elected. That doesn’t mean Biden was anything but an awful leader but Trump is worse. Way way worse. Everything he does both foreign and domestic was enabled by those who both voted for him and those who refused to vote against him.
American involvement in the middle east has worsened the situation for Palestinians since Trump was elected.
No it hasn’t, you were just a genocide denier when it was your team doing it. In that sense, the situation is better under Trump because at least BlueMaga shitlibs like you are not denying their genocide anymore.
I’m not american, and I don’t ‘need to feel better’, I’m glad that country is destroying itself since they are all horrible, as I explained.
American involvement in the middle east has worsened the situation for Palestinians since Trump was elected.
You must be joking, there was nothing left for him to bomb in Palestine and he ruthlessly bombed Yemen, more than Trump did.
I give facts, they are not catchphrases as you demeaningly call it.
All you got is “Trump is worse”.
You should move there, you fit right in with the smug and sanctimonius libs shifting blame and vile insults at leftists for what they themselves caused.
If you genuinely think things aren’t worse under Trump whilst simultaneously claiming you speak facts then I don’t know that you are capable of reason. Couple that with your apologia for excusing voting against fascism and its very obvious you’re about as left wing as Thatcher wasn’t.
Worse for non cis people, worse for women, worse for education, worse for immigrants, worse for people in countries being directly and indirectly threatened by your fascist president. Worse for people watching him dismantle all opposition and ultimately worse for anyone who thinks they’re going to be able to protest any of this. The fact he hasn’t made things worse for your neighbours is because he hasn’t got around to it yet. Were less than 6 months in.
They are worse for themselves, that’s all, and all they care about.
The entirety of the Dems program was “let us continue to be shitty and also ignore that little genocide… or you get Trump and expensive eggs!”
And again you are incapable of understanding voting for them is not “voting against fascism”, since they both are and continuing the status quo BS it what got them in this position in the first place. I have zero sympathy for them.
And you certainly should not have an opinion on me being left.
What are you, some English guy voting for Kid Starver and larping as a leftist?
Really, don’t bother replying, no use in talking to obstinate people.
Try and parse a bit of reality. By enabling fascism by voting for it or refusing to vote against it you make the situation worse for both those in Palestine and also remove your ability to vote out the person doing this.
Dude, I’m doubting you are capable of reason. Compare what you wrote:-
If you genuinely think things aren’t worse under Trump
What you are responding to.
American involvement in the middle east has worsened the situation for Palestinians since Trump was elected. That doesn’t mean Biden was anything but an awful leader but Trump is worse. Way way worse.
If you refuse to vote against a fascist you support the fascist. Because the fascist doesn’t care if you endorse him. Refusing to stand up to him brings about the exact same result.
Really? You’re assuming of course that I’m am American citizen, which I’m not, or didn’t attend numerous protests to support Palestinians in the country I do live in, which I did.
When there’s no wiggle room to try to absolve themselves of allowing and abetting the circus horror show they worship to continue working as intended (because they need it to live comfortably knowing full well that others thousands of KMs away can’t), all that’s left is a simple “no u”.
Westoid chauvinists/jingoists, especially libs who are arguably the most depraved of them all, are fucking annoying to engage with knowing this fact.
Seriously, nobody twists themselves into just incoherent and nonsense rhetorical knots as much as BlueMAGA libs. even the red variety are more coherent.
red variety: “yes actually we are racist and actually hate your guts”
blue: “yes but no but actually but maybe, perhaps, mayhaps, blue eyes, whataboutism, consider the alternative, juxtapose this to that, for instance, in short, in closing, blonde hair matters”
Blue is a colour associated with the democrat party of the USA. Maga is a cult associated with the republican party of the USA.
Referring to non Americans in terms referencing US political parties is nonsensical. Are you an American? If so it seems you’re one of those American Exceptionalism types who insists everything in the world must be viewed via the prism of the USA.
You had a choice OP
Instead you chose secret option d. Make ‘both sides equally bad’ memes to justify the acceptance of fascism.
Always vote against the fascist. Or revolt.
The economic system in the US guarantees fascism, the rules are made up and votes are don’t matter.
I didn’t vote because I’m not American. They should revolt that is the only answer.
All 3 points are wrong. 1 There is no status quo, they have demonstrably both gone further right. Which brings me to 2 2 There is only fascism and fascism-light. Genocide Joe also built the wall, deported massively more people:
Bombed civilians in Yemen and displaced half a million people there for his genocidal proxy.
And many mor scummy thing.
3 They will never have a revolution, only placate Trump and move even further to the right to win back some votes.
And people will take it, americans are pacified and harmless, some lame protests are not ‘revolution’.
Gullible AF as shown by the massive upvotes you get from the many libs here.
They will all be hearded back into the status quo sytem by Bernie or AOC the new sheepdog puppy in training to prevent revolution or a valid 3rd party.
Sad that even a non-american as yourself, not confined to thinking inside the box can be this wrong.
The other side of the uniparty thinks like you and is refusing to admit their wrongs, how bad do you have to be to not be an alternative to fascists? All of them get what they deserve.
Mate, assuming youre an American, whatever you need to feel better about your inaction is up to you
Bottom line: once an Americans ability to vote is gone all your catchphrases mean nothing. The fascist is the one who will take that action.
American involvement in the middle east has worsened the situation for Palestinians since Trump was elected. That doesn’t mean Biden was anything but an awful leader but Trump is worse. Way way worse. Everything he does both foreign and domestic was enabled by those who both voted for him and those who refused to vote against him.
No it hasn’t, you were just a genocide denier when it was your team doing it. In that sense, the situation is better under Trump because at least BlueMaga shitlibs like you are not denying their genocide anymore.
I’m not american, and I don’t ‘need to feel better’, I’m glad that country is destroying itself since they are all horrible, as I explained.
You must be joking, there was nothing left for him to bomb in Palestine and he ruthlessly bombed Yemen, more than Trump did.
I give facts, they are not catchphrases as you demeaningly call it.
All you got is “Trump is worse”.
You should move there, you fit right in with the smug and sanctimonius libs shifting blame and vile insults at leftists for what they themselves caused.
If you genuinely think things aren’t worse under Trump whilst simultaneously claiming you speak facts then I don’t know that you are capable of reason. Couple that with your apologia for excusing voting against fascism and its very obvious you’re about as left wing as Thatcher wasn’t.
Worse for whom?
Things haven’t changed a bit for my indigenous neighbors. They are being fucked over just as hard now, as before…
My black neighbors have noticed just as much now as before, cops still abusing their community and their still being ignored economically.
So, worse for white people? Sure.
Worse for non cis people, worse for women, worse for education, worse for immigrants, worse for people in countries being directly and indirectly threatened by your fascist president. Worse for people watching him dismantle all opposition and ultimately worse for anyone who thinks they’re going to be able to protest any of this. The fact he hasn’t made things worse for your neighbours is because he hasn’t got around to it yet. Were less than 6 months in.
Better for all the people who were already being brutalized by the USA empire and are happy to see it collapse though.
The reason it’s not worse for my neighbors, is because they were already under attack by your beloved liberal republic, and have been for centuries.
And there it is, “if you dare question my genocide denial, you aren’t capable of reason!”
They are worse for themselves, that’s all, and all they care about.
The entirety of the Dems program was “let us continue to be shitty and also ignore that little genocide… or you get Trump and expensive eggs!”
And again you are incapable of understanding voting for them is not “voting against fascism”, since they both are and continuing the status quo BS it what got them in this position in the first place. I have zero sympathy for them.
And you certainly should not have an opinion on me being left.
What are you, some English guy voting for Kid Starver and larping as a leftist?
Really, don’t bother replying, no use in talking to obstinate people.
Try and parse a bit of reality. By enabling fascism by voting for it or refusing to vote against it you make the situation worse for both those in Palestine and also remove your ability to vote out the person doing this.
And here’s you going on about eggs.
No, you were just a genocide denier when it was your team doing it.
Your whole complaint is that people didn’t vote for the people doing this.
Dude, I’m doubting you are capable of reason. Compare what you wrote:-
What you are responding to.
Those were both me. What’s your point?
Copied the wrong reply. Anyway.
Neither of you is saying Trump is better.
No, you’re wrong. Jusr twice.
If you refuse to vote against a fascist you support the fascist. Because the fascist doesn’t care if you endorse him. Refusing to stand up to him brings about the exact same result.
You supported a genocide.
Really? You’re assuming of course that I’m am American citizen, which I’m not, or didn’t attend numerous protests to support Palestinians in the country I do live in, which I did.
The whole world is not the USA.
So did you.
Lol. The absolute state of BlueMAGA; reduced to “no, u!”
I mean, you randomly stated they supported a genocide. But yall are cool with letting the repubs win and getting one at home.
Oh, right, we wont have one at home. This time its being outsourced.
???
I assume you responded to the wrong post.
When there’s no wiggle room to try to absolve themselves of allowing and abetting the circus horror show they worship to continue working as intended (because they need it to live comfortably knowing full well that others thousands of KMs away can’t), all that’s left is a simple “no u”.
Westoid chauvinists/jingoists, especially libs who are arguably the most depraved of them all, are fucking annoying to engage with knowing this fact.
Seriously, nobody twists themselves into just incoherent and nonsense rhetorical knots as much as BlueMAGA libs. even the red variety are more coherent.
red variety: “yes actually we are racist and actually hate your guts”
blue: “yes but no but actually but maybe, perhaps, mayhaps, blue eyes, whataboutism, consider the alternative, juxtapose this to that, for instance, in short, in closing, blonde hair matters”
Basically, but with a lot self-righteousness and left-punching.
I wanted to not be genocided
So do we, but apparently the USA has made genocide a bipartisan consensus.
Your daily reminder that blueMAGA liberals don’t consider Palestinians human
(I’m also curious how they determined op is an American eligible voter in a swing state)
Your daily reminder that tankies don’t consider Ukrainians human.
Well that’s a completely incoherent non-sequitor, but that’s also all BlueMAGA has left.
I guess the same way you assumed I am?
I didn’t, but I realise “no, U!” Is all you have, so you’re going to cram it in regardless.
So when you referred to my comment as 'blueMAGA liberals ’ you weren’t referring to what I said?
I was.
So you called me a bluemaga liberal but simultaneously you didn’t assume I was am American voter? Lol, whatever.
There’s no requirement to be an American voter to be blueMAGA. A fact that it is so obvious that I can only conclude you’re playing dumb on purpose.
Blue is a colour associated with the democrat party of the USA. Maga is a cult associated with the republican party of the USA.
Referring to non Americans in terms referencing US political parties is nonsensical. Are you an American? If so it seems you’re one of those American Exceptionalism types who insists everything in the world must be viewed via the prism of the USA.