Buddy I didn’t deny anything about how our own government is actively an authoritarian regime or any of the shitty things it is doing. But we still are not at People’s Republic of China (PRC) levels yet. We do not actively censor the media on the same level as PRC where even the slightest hint of disapproval is enough to be disappeared, yes though the waters are being tested here. For now we still have elections on the state level that can mean something since more than one party can run. We are still allowed to protest here without just being shot on sight. We have an uncensored internet for the time being so I do think it is fair to say we are not as bad as the PRC.
The sacred rituals of Western civilization-- the election and the press-- were long ago subsumed by capital. You don’t need to formally censor when the oligarchs own the media and will skew the messaging to serve their interest. You don’t need to have a single party state when the Overton window has been dragged so far right that no electoral outcome can actually oust billionaire rule.
At least, in that context, we can ask who censorship serves? Is it about social cohesion and stability, or preserving the privilege of a handful of people?
In regard to China, it serves a handful of people. Specifically those Party members which less than 3% of the population and have enriched themselves and their families to create a perpetual ruler class at the expense of the other 1 billion.
You ever hear the expression those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones? It means sort your own shit out before pointing fingers and others.
Your country has zero right to call out anyone else for their hypocrisy. Also, refresh my memory, what US company helped the Nazis by building machines they could use to process Jews for extermination? IB… something… A US company.
I ain’t goddamn pointing fingers, just merely highlighting the goddamn difference in the shittiness of the two. Why the fuck can’t you get it through your thick ass skull that I agree on the larger point but though it was a bad move to say we are worse than a nation which has been doing ethnic cleansing and genocide for literal decades?
Not everything is a black and white, agree or disagree. Maybe just maybe there are shades of gray where you can agree but not wholeheartedly agree. You do more damage to your own side by arguing with people who agree with you when you do this.
Buddy I didn’t deny anything about how our own government is actively an authoritarian regime or any of the shitty things it is doing. But we still are not at People’s Republic of China (PRC) levels yet. We do not actively censor the media on the same level as PRC where even the slightest hint of disapproval is enough to be disappeared, yes though the waters are being tested here. For now we still have elections on the state level that can mean something since more than one party can run. We are still allowed to protest here without just being shot on sight. We have an uncensored internet for the time being so I do think it is fair to say we are not as bad as the PRC.
The sacred rituals of Western civilization-- the election and the press-- were long ago subsumed by capital. You don’t need to formally censor when the oligarchs own the media and will skew the messaging to serve their interest. You don’t need to have a single party state when the Overton window has been dragged so far right that no electoral outcome can actually oust billionaire rule.
At least, in that context, we can ask who censorship serves? Is it about social cohesion and stability, or preserving the privilege of a handful of people?
In regard to China, it serves a handful of people. Specifically those Party members which less than 3% of the population and have enriched themselves and their families to create a perpetual ruler class at the expense of the other 1 billion.
You ever hear the expression those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones? It means sort your own shit out before pointing fingers and others.
Your country has zero right to call out anyone else for their hypocrisy. Also, refresh my memory, what US company helped the Nazis by building machines they could use to process Jews for extermination? IB… something… A US company.
So again… what???
I ain’t goddamn pointing fingers, just merely highlighting the goddamn difference in the shittiness of the two. Why the fuck can’t you get it through your thick ass skull that I agree on the larger point but though it was a bad move to say we are worse than a nation which has been doing ethnic cleansing and genocide for literal decades?
Not everything is a black and white, agree or disagree. Maybe just maybe there are shades of gray where you can agree but not wholeheartedly agree. You do more damage to your own side by arguing with people who agree with you when you do this.
That’s not what that phrase means