• prole
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    5 days ago

    Phantom Thread was amazing… Might need to watch that one again

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      5 days ago

      My wife and son love that movie, and want to watch it about once a year. I despise it. Boring, and really, really stupid.

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        5 days ago

        I could understand someone finding it boring, but what was really really stupid about it?

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            5 days ago

            You can reduce literally any film to one sentence that makes it sound stupid.

            “Citizen Kane is stupid, its a story about a rich guy who really liked his sled.”

            Even still… oversimplification aside, I don’t see anything inherently stupid about “a love story about poisoning”

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                    Fair enough.

                    However, I do maintain that eliminating all nuance and saying it’s a love story about poisoning is (if you’ve seen it several times, perhaps purposely) reductive to the point of misrepresentation.

                    It’s a film that is good because it is so subtle and nuanced imo. Remove that aspect and it’s just a boring film.

                    If I had to describe it myself… (Spoilers below)

                    It’s a film about a man who is so in love with this woman/muse (whom he believes he needs to continue his craft) that he is willing to silently accept her slowly poisoning him when he discovers that she is. He is so devoted to his craft, and he realizes (or just believes) that as his muse, he will not be able to continue his work without her (which to him is basically death).

                    So he has to decide that he’s willing to quietly withstand the slow poisoning so that he can continue to “live” (through his dressmaking, which is his life), rather than leaving her and “losing his life” (i.e., his ability to work as a world class dressmaker). Knowing that it will literally kill him.

                    Then there’s the whole thing of like, does she know that he knows? Is this some twisted lovers dance for these two?

                    See? Much more than just “a love story about poisoning”

                    Again, I haven’t seen it in years so this is all from memory, but I thought it was a great story and it was only enhanced by P.T. Anderson’s direction, and Daniel Day Lewis’ performance.