• Nat (she/they)
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    Perhaps just as many women are single, but clearly it’s affecting men in a more extreme way. It is an issue, but the main culprit is probably toxic masculinity making men unable to be emotionally available nor do anything about their feelings except stew in them.

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      When men are emotionally available nobody cares anyway. Also men have almost zero purpose in society since women fill their role now. The suicide rate says it all

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        women fill their role now ???

        Do you mean that they’re equal? If so, what’s the problem? Women being allowed to do things doesn’t mean men can’t.

        As a woman, I care about men being emotionally available. I’m gay, so I’m not gonna date/fuck them or anything, but I do care. The people I’ve seen who care the least about it are fellow men. Nobody deserves friends, family, or partners doing that to them.

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          They’re not equal and they never will be. Women are being screwed over arguably worse and that’s shown by the birth rate, imo. Society has put an expectation on women to go to university and get a career or else seen as a failure. Choosing to be a mom is no longer acceptable in general.

          You’ll probably get triggered at me saying this but women’s role is have kids because men cannot. Men are supposed to be providers and protectors but they aren’t anymore because for some reason we’ve decided to put that expectation on women.

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            Expectations are bad, yes, but then here you are pushing your own expectations. I’ve not seen any push against women being mothers except for economic forces.

            My role is not to have your kids. Sure, people can do that if they want, but the roles you speak of are nothing more than how you wish to see things, they have no objectivity, and saying people should do what you want is stupid.

            I gave you the benefit of the doubt despite being suspicious, but I guess you’ve now confirmed you’re just parroting incel talking points with no understanding of the world nor people. You can be a provider if you want, I don’t care, but I draw the line at demanding others conform to your ideals.

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        Zero purpose in society since women fill their role now

        If people being more equal than before rids you of your purpose there’s quite a problem there, there’s no reason for that.

        Don’t get me wrong, the suicides are a problem, obviously, but suicide attempts are actually multiple times more frequent among women (around 3x last I checked), so I don’t think this is a reasonable hypothesis (losing purpose because women are empowered more) as to why the suicide rates are higher.

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          I don’t believe men and women have gotten more equal actually. (Not in the last few decades I mean)

          Do you think it’s possible that suicide attempts among men are not reported as often? I’ve attempted suicide twice before and never told anyone. Long time ago and I’m happy now.

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            You seem to subtly direct everything at women. Men’s mental health is a problem, but we don’t need to play oppression olympics here. Let’s just keep it to the issue at hand rather than making constant comparisons.

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              Well I was replying to a comment claiming that women don’t have it easier than men. Which is almost certainly false.