• Fredthefishlord
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    18 hours ago

    pressure on the political system

    They literally only care about voters dude. They don’t give a shit about non voters.

    thusly eroding democracy

    Even in a full, complete and true democracy, compromise is still the name of the game. The very nature of a collective people making government forces compromise. You will never not have to compromise, and compromise is not “erosion of democracy”. Your entire premise is simply wrong; democracy is not just getting what you want.

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      Modern states derive their legitimiacy from the will of the people, so an election with low turnout is less legitimate than an election with higher turnout. This can be noticable when a very small amount of people votes. This is why they repeat that you have to vote, no matter for whom, this pro-voting propaganda is meant to legitimise the government.

      It is you who are wrong about my position. Democracy is not getting what you want, it is the government following the will of the majority, which it does not because the democratic party has been supporting a largely unpopular genocide, and if you are against it, you have no way to have your view(which is popular) represented in the political system. The democrats don’t give a shit what their voters want, they will vote for them anyway, for as long as they hate the other party more. But if the majority of people hates both parties/candidates, and votes for the one they hate less, this is not democracy.

      Also, the democratic party sucks for many reasons, not just the recent Palestine development.

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        less legitimate than an election with higher turnout.

        Yes. But in practice, the government doesn’t care about that. Why would they?

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          You know, they had elections in the soviet union. And you had two options, vote for the candidate(there was only one) and spoil the ballot(not an official option, clearly).

          If enough people spoiled the ballot, a new candidate could be indroduced, but this is infrequent and irrelevant.

          Riddle me this, why have elections if you have only one candidate on the ballot? What is the point of having mock elections in dictatorships, with fake numbers?

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            Cool, but fun fact, we only may have just become a dictator ship with trump. Before that at least, we weren’t one. You’re ignoring primaries.

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        You want a bunch of people to suffer and die in addition to the people already doomed to suffer and die on the off chance we get a better world at the end of it.

        If this is accurate (and I’d almost bet money that it is), you are evil and shouldn’t be listened to.