I think the problem is that people are constantly framing it as putting all of the blame on non-voters/Trump voters, and completely absolving the Democratic Party, and that’s just ridiculous. Many of us are also very unhappy with the Democratic party, and there’s plenty of blame to go around.

But I have run into the same issue. It’s been impossible to have a good faith discussion about the topic, because literally (and I mean literally) every attempt begins with a straw man, and goes nowhere.