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    until the republicans ban them so they can find queer kids and pregnant people getting healthcare and people reading books

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      All that happens under Dems, too. Stop giving them a pass.

      Y’all keep hitting that downvote button. I’d like to know how many of you are ok with fascism when it’s a Dem at the helm.

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        All that happens under Dems, too

        Fucking what? Which democrats are banning books and putting together lists of trans children?

        And no, I’m not a fan of the DNC, I’m just not a fucking dishonest piece of shit.

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        Dumb people are down voting you despite the fact that you’re 1000000% correct.

        Leftists need to stop defending the Democratic party so hard, it’s making them look like neo liberals

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          Leftists need to stop defending the Democratic party

          The joke of it is you’re either with the Democratic Party or you’re a hyper-authoritarian anti-democratic Russia/China loving Tankie. You will eat your police state and you will like it, because otherwise the Bigger Fascists will win.

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          Wait what? You know that leftists dislike Democrats, right?

          Are you really not aware they are two different things?

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            You know that leftists dislike Democrats, right?

            They’re classic Frienamies. Every two years, they hold their noses while screaming “I hate this! I hate this! I hate you all!” and pull the lever for the party. Then the party either wins, thanks to all the Michael Bloombergs and Liz Cheneys who guided the party successfully to the right. Or the party loses, thanks to all the civil rights activists and environmentalists and train lovers who made Whitey McDickweasel look like a Communist.

            Leftists are the Dems’ most loyal voters and their most bitter enemies.

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            I’m aware yet I’ve been seeing so many so-called lefties going crazy for the DNC.

            I think the desperation and need to defeat Trump has led to a lot of “blind acceptance” of Democrats

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          It’s just treated like team sports for so many people. It doesn’t matter what the team does, it’s offensive to them to criticize it at all.

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        Yup. The Apple-FBI encryption dispute started under Obama, as did the Snowden leak.

        Neither party is particularly pro-encryption, because governments in general see encryption by the public a hurdle for their operations (i.e. you don’t need encryption if you have nothing to hide).

        Encryption isn’t a partisan issue, and my understanding is that both major parties suck about equally on this issue.

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          It’s a wonder they’re not also trying to outlaw printing presses at this point. They openly believe that we are not entitled to private conversations.

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            It seems we’re moving that direction. Physical media in video games is becoming less and less common, more and more stores are digital only (and Google made a deal w/ Mastercard to get that data), and ebooks are likely to overtake physical books in the near-ish future.

            Guess where all that data ends up? The government can just pay retailers to get transaction data, so if the police wants to dig up dirt on you, it’s easier than ever.

            That’s pretty messed up IMO, and I’m not happy with this trend given where privacy protections are at these days…

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              Yep. We need a very strict law to prevent the government from partnering with private companies to get around the fourth amendment. The third party doctrine has obliterated our privacy rights.

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                Agreed. If there’s anything we should collectively push for, it’s a constitutional recognition to a right to privacy. That’s what Roe v Wade was based on, and it was overturned because it wasn’t constitutionally defensible. The 4th amendment sadly isn’t sufficient, we need to take it a step further.

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        The Snowden leaks came out when Obama was president. Obama was the one who said, “The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide”. The republicans and democrats are the same fucking people.

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          The republicans and democrats are the same fucking people.

          In many cases, literally. From Michael Bloomberg and Liz Cheney to Donald Trump and Joe Manchin, the number of cross-overs and turn-coats who end up getting into leadership in their opponent’s parties is absolutely crazy. The Nixonian Southern Strategy did one thing brilliantly. It completely crossed the wires of the partisan voter for three generations to the benefit of the corporate oligarchs who get to play both ends against the middle.

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          Only if you look at it in the most general, limited, pov. Are they the same people on corporate greed? Not all, but mostly yes. Are they the same people on encryption? Yes. Are they the same on human rights? Absolutely fucking not. If the only thing important for you is encryption, voting isn’t going to change the government’s policy decisions. However, if things other than encryption and corporate greed are important, then voting for a Republican is voting against your interests. History is filled with people who can’t see past their own fucking biases and look out for the greater interest… So you have a lot of historical company.

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            Are they the same on human rights? Absolutely fucking not.

            The outcome of the 2024 election, according to the liberal pundits, was that trans-rights and Palestinian liberties cost Harris the election.

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              I’m just responding to your comment. If you were only talking about encryption, then maybe word your comment more clearly… Especially if you want to cast aspersions towards other about staying on topic.

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              Taking a narrow myopic view leads to single issue voting, and that has caused ridiculous levels of damage to the public.