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    17 days ago

    I see so many people talking about passports and moving. I’m on a fixed income, and barely got an apartment with my mom cosigning. I’m fucking stuck in a red state and I feel so fucking screwed.

    Also lets stop acting like most of the voters were misled, lied to, bamboozled into voting for trump. They saw the racism, sexism, hate, and disrespect for the law and others and they LIKED IT. They want this. They aren’t idiots they’re fascists.

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      17 days ago

      It’s important to remember there are 340 million people in the US. Only 70 million, counted so far, voted for Trump. Of those 70 million people, many of them will also be targeted by the fascists, who make up a minority of that group. We outnumber the fascists. We do a disservice to ourselves and others by making it seem otherwise.

      The number one polled issue for Republican voters was the economy. They got duped by Fox fucking News. Jokes on them when the Republicans inevitably tank the economy.

      The real question is will the mass deportations or the tariffs do it first. Hopefully the tariffs. If we’re going to be dysfunctional as a country, we might as well do it before making camps.

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        17 days ago

        Conversely, at most 68 million people voted for Harris. That means roughly 270 million people either didn’t vote or voted for fascists, which means they’re either so disenfranchised they couldn’t vote, are idiots, were scared for their livelihoods and lied to (meaning they’re still idiots, but at least they’re also cowardly), or are fascists themselves.

        I don’t know when we’ll learn, but given our ever-deteriorating education system I don’t think it’ll be anytime soon.

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          17 days ago

          There’s no sense in lashing out at nonvoters. We need to organize in order to make a difference.

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            17 days ago

            No sense, but I’d like to see the morons who kept bullshitting that there is any kind of sense in not voting. The dumbest fucking people anywhere

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              17 days ago

              It’s hard to understate how fucking awful the accelerationism was this last year.

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                  A burning building doesn’t get put out by watching it burn. And the fire can in fact spread to the next building. Things can always get worse because there is no bottom. Things will only get better by making them better.

                  The accelerationists got what they wanted. And everyone, including them, are worse off for it. We’ve gone from not utilizing the limited time window, to avert the worst of climate change, to choosing to use that time to pollute as much as possible. We may in fact succeed in reaching 5°C before 2100.

                  • knightly the Sneptaur@pawb.social
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                    Things will only get better by making them better.

                    And people are lazy and don’t try, so things always get worse until things get bad enough that people get fed up with the things and do something about them.

                    For the last four years, people have been acting like they don’t need to get off their asses and fundamentally change their way of life to address climate change because there was a Democrat in office. Now the Democrats aren’t going to save them and they don’t have a choice if they want a habitable planet for their grandkids.

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                  Accelerationists have never been right, their argument is self-defeating.

                  The heart of the accelerationist argument is equating red and blue, claiming the blues’ inability to completely undo the damage of the reds is intentional and makes them no better – that the purpose of a system is what it does.

                  But by that logic, the purpose of accelerationism is to enable fascist ascent, and that makes them indistinguishable from fascists.

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                    If the purpose of a thing is what it does, then accelerationism isn’t for anything. Recognizing that things will inevitably get worse before they can get better accomplishes nothing.

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                  It’s likely because of them that this was the outcome. 81M votes for Biden in 2020 and 10K less this year when it really mattered?

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                    If it really mattered to the Democrats, they wouldn’t be phoning it in on every issue from climate change to abortion to genocide. The party only has itself to blame for its failure to appeal to voters.