• Samvega
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    Biden tried the working with Republican thing. They hated him and demonised him.

    Why even try?

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      Why try to negotiate with a party who base their entire personalities on obstruction and destroying the government?

      Because Dems can’t accept that Republicans are a lost cause and they just need to motivate their base instead of trying to appeal to the worst half of the voting populace.

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        Because Dems can’t accept that Republicans are a lost cause

        The problem might be that Dems are a right-wing party and they want to work with the other right-wing party.

        But they don’t understand - and this makes no sense, because the evidence is obvious - that they have been demonised from since before I was born as being what they are not, namely socialist and communist.

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            I define the Dems as right wing, sorry.

            I’m pretty sure the Dems fit this definition, overall: “The neo-liberal right sought to combine a market economy and economic deregulation with the traditional right-wing beliefs in patriotism, elitism and law and order”.

            https://jacobin.com/2022/07/democratic-party-neoliberalism-dlc-clinton

            In 1992, Bill Clinton ran for president promising to “end welfare as we know it.” This rightward turn was part of a broader attempt by the Democrats to craft a “progressive neoliberalism” — whose “progressivism” included abandoning its working-class base.

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                Okay. Thanks for not trying to change my mind.

                “Right-wing politics is the range of political ideologies that view certain social orders and hierarchies as inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable…”

                You say “Dems are conservstive”. What are they conserving? Would it be certain social orders and hierarchies?

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                  Either you are trollling or have such a skewed version of reality that even trying didn’t cross my mind. I assume it is the latter.

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                    such a skewed version of reality

                    Thanks! That might well be, unintentionally, a compliment.