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    I wonder if she’s willing to risk the future of democracy in America to detach the US from Israel.

    It appears so.

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        “When I’m president you’ll never have to [get to] vote again!”-the orange turd.

        But it’s okay, Because you’re not afraid of trump.

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        Jill Stein cannot win this election. She can only spoil it for Kamala Harris and in so doing pass the win to Donald Trump.

        Donald Trump and the RNC are a material threat to democracy in the USA.

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          Maybe the Democrats should be nicer to Green Voters instead of calling them idiots or traitors every time they say they are gonna vote Green.

          I’m not voting Green party, but the hate and rudeness I have received here guaranteed that I won’t vote Democrat. No way.

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          Trump is the bed liberals made for themselves when they kept punching left and ignoring everyone telling them what would happen if you supported Clinton in 2016. And we were right about how things played out.

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            100%. Harris is no peach either. I’d much rather someone with Stein’s policies win.

            But she doesn’t have any chance. And it’s imperative that Trump not win.

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              I like some of Stein’s policies, but a lot of them are just silly and naive. She wants to abolish the Electoral College, for instance. Great, but since that’s directly in the Constitution, she’s going to get an amendment through with a 2/3rds vote in both houses of Congress and ratified by 3/4ths the states? Which kinda requires some of the red ones?

              Then big one for me, is “peace-loving” Stein is critical of Ukraine aid. I cannot support hanging them out to dry like that, even though we promised to help keep them secure after convincing them to de-nuclearize, after the fall of the USSR in the Budapest Memorandum.

              Our word has to be worth more than that.

              I’m all for progress towards a utopian world, but offering one as your policy platform is a little manipulative when we have a government of checks and balances that has some republicans in it.

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                And let’s be honest here, steins foreign policy is almost literally cut and pasted from the kremlin’s party line. I assume they fixed some translation errors.

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                It can both be true that the DNC helped in some way to move the Overton Window in the US rightward and that the primary movers of said window, the fascist RNC party, must not win the election or the consequences will be dire.

                Stein’s policies are simply more progressive and better for America. But they’re likely unobtainable in the current political climate and she can afford to make such grandiose goals as policy because she isn’t beholden to them as she has no chance of winning.

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                  Fuck Jill Stein. I’m not interested in evaluating the policy positions of a wack job who is now clearly only here to be a spoiler.

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            The man literally advocated for an American Kristallnacht at a rally recently.

            You are a fool to not see him and his dictatorial ambitions as a threat. Project 2025 clearly outlines the RNC’s goals to shift the nation towards a dictatorship and remove dissident ideologies by force.

            Furthermore, the future for Palestine will fare no better under Trump than Harris. All Stein is doing by purposely trying to spoil a win for Harris is enabling and aiding the growth of fascism in the US.

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        As you well know, Trump has already tried a coup once and has promised many authoritarian horrors. No one believes you don’t know about that stuff.