• Samvega
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    3 months ago

    Every person is presumed innocent until proven guilty in court.

    No. I don’t need to take you to court to prove that you can’t spell ‘escape’ in your username, for example. It’s just an obvious fact.

    You can’t reduce reality to legal issues and then the fact of having committed an unpleasant actions to legal outcomes. Israel could literally blow up courts which start proceedings in terms of international law against the country, for example, that wouldn’t alter the reality of the evidence against Israel.

    If you hit me with your car and I die, and there are witness, you did wrong regardless of what the court says.

    • eacapesamsara@sh.itjust.works
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      3 months ago

      Incorrect, the reason we don’t live in the reality you describe is witness testimony is unreliable, and mob justice fails every time it’s tried.

      You are innocent until proven guilty. Period. Otherwise I can just say you killed my uncle and kill you in response to that made up event.

    • idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Innocent and guilty have formal legal definitions and informal, everyday ones. OJ Simpson was found innocent of murder, but I think it’s probably pretty likely that he did it with intent. Those can both be true.

      • Samvega
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        3 months ago

        Thank you for restating what I said, I appreciate it.

        • idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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          3 months ago

          It’s surprising that you intended to agree with the original commenter whom you replied to, but sometimes it do be like that.

          • Samvega
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            3 months ago

            The commenter with the mis-spelled username? They’re not worth listening to.