Also, in b4 fascists start pretending like the Stalinist bootlicker Thalmann hadn’t spent the past half-decade backstabbing and burning bridges with the SPD, which had previously been cooperative with the KPD after the establishment of the Weimar Republic.

  • Sop
    2·
    3 months ago

    I actually care a lot about those topics and am actively putting in work into my local lgbtq and Palestine protest communities, improving the lives of lgtbq people (like me) and making sure that the Palestinian cause is not forgotten. Through this work I talk with other leftists who care as much about these same topics as me. This puts me in a position where I know what motivates these people and gives me the generational knowledge of historically effective methods of fights for human rights.

    I do not shame people into voting for or against anyone. If I did, and shamed everyone who wouldn’t vote for a liberal party like the US democrats, my community would not exist because I would alienate a lot of people who actually cares about these issues.

    You are not helping anyone by calling genuine leftists fascists. You are actually closing a lot of bridges by picking fights with anyone who has a different method of fighting and advocating for human rights issues. I am 95% sure that you have not actually researched how to actually use US electorialism to your advantage, and are just repeating the same talking point that we have all heard a hundred times.

    You are trying really hard to ignore the facts that lay before you:

    • you will not prevent a trump presidency by convincing people to vote blue no matter who because many US citizens will not be convinced to vote for the democratic party if they do not stop funding genocide
    • democratic politicians have shown year in year out that they care more about hoarding money from big donators than about winning votes by advertising popular leftist policies, and are showing this election that they care more about continuing genocide than ensuring the prevention of a Trump presidency
    • the democratic party has over the past decade consistently moved to the right, and they keep implementing policies that a few years ago they would have used to scare people from the other candidate (i.e. the current horrific border policy that Harris supports as well).
    • the only historically proven way to stop these right extremist policies is by threatening with, and actually going through if demands are not met, extreme monetary losses for the ruling class through a general strike or civil unrest.
    • HostilePasta@lemmy.ml
      5·
      3 months ago

      Cool, so you would rather moralize about what will happen regardless of who wins this election than try to prevent America from becoming a theocracy. Cool cool. Enjoy the indiscriminate slaughter of all those groups you say you support. I hope you live comfortably through all the death. Have a good one.

      • Sop
        1·
        3 months ago

        I don’t think you’ve read what I wrote and if you did you did so with a large portion of prejudices. I’m also not the person ‘moralising’ here lol, I’m here in this thread arguing because I find it disturbing that the op frames anti genocide protesters as ‘fascists’. I’d argue that calling people fascist for having a different opinion on the workings of the US electoral systems and the power of protestation is actually more moralistic. I’m giving my point of view because people here (like you) seem to think that they can speak for minority groups that they don’t actually know that well.