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  • socialpankakemix
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    3 months ago

    this is exactly like saying homeless people would rather go to prison than be homeless.

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      3 months ago

      Not even close to saying that. I think you need to look at what SCOTUS recently ruled about what cities can do with homeless people. Because sanctuary districts would be kinder.

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        3 months ago

        you cant leave a sanctuary district, thats a prison, why would anybody want to go there? theres three main ways you end up there, you are too poor, your caught sleeping on the streets, or you have mental problems and cant afford the healthcare.

        inside the sanctuarys you have no guarantee for housing, no way to get a job, increased gang activity, more mentally unstable people, food shortages, how is that any better than living on the streets in our world?

        the rulings from the scotus is the first step to sanctuary districts my friend, and if you think that locking poor people in cages is kind, then you have a funny definition of kindness.

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          3 months ago

          I don’t think you understand the difference between “kinder” and “kindness.”

          Spitting in someone’s face is kinder than stabbing them in the throat. Does that mean spitting in their face is kindness?

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            3 months ago

            if you say something is kinder, then it must pass the bar of being kind first. I would say none of the things being described, (spitting , stabbing, and locking people away) counts as kind in the first place

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              3 months ago

              No, that’s not how language works.

              You can say that flies are smarter than bacteria despite neither being smart.

              You can say that Bob is uglier than Dave when neither Bob nor Dave are ugly.

              And I’ve already made it clear to you that I was not suggesting either was kind, so I’m not sure why you’re arguing this with me as if I were.

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                3 months ago

                you can say bob is uglier than Dave sure, but if it’s not true then it means nothing, similarly if you call something unkind kind, then that also means nothing. you said that sanctuary districts would be kinder, in order to be kinder they must first be kind, so yes you did say sanctuary districts are kind.

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                  3 months ago

                  Again- I made it clear what I meant. You’re just harassing me at this point because you have decided I meant something I didn’t mean due to the way I said it even when you’ve been told otherwise. Maybe stop doing that.

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                    3 months ago

                    my intent is not to harrass you, if you agree that prison for homeless people is bad, then my only point of contention was the use of the language, and i hope you can see why i interpreted what you said the way i did.

                    i spent like 6 years homeless myself, i dont particularly like the idea that anybody could be put into a sanctuary district for being homeless. most homeless people i personally know would be very opposed to the idea of being placed in a sanctuary district, because they have interacted with social welfare programs before and know that they are ineffective at best, and actively harmful at worst, and the sanctuary district we see in the show is a prime example of that

                    the people who get placed there did nothing wrong, and are now prisoners in some fucked up fend for yourself cage. there were promises of being placed in a job, that the sanctuary disctricts are there to help the people in them. that is the exact opposite of what they do, its only a way to sweep the problem under the rug

                    you say some may prefer to be put into a sanctuary district than be arrested for being homeless, i dont see a difference between the two whatsoever.