• sem
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    30
    ·
    26 days ago

    If you go back far enough, whales are a type of fish, just like us humans

    • lugal@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      26 days ago

      Either that or fish aren’t a phylogenetic group. You decide

      • sem
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        25 days ago

        You can’t evolve out of a clade, or so they say.

        Of course it’s not helpful to call humans and whales fishes in common parlance. But in phylogenetics, why not?

        • lugal@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          25 days ago

          Because that would make fish and vertebrates synonyms so why not drop the former altogether?

          • sem
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            25 days ago

            Words can mean more than one thing thought, and depending on the context it can be useful to convey the fact that the vertebrates all evolved from fish-like ancestors, or that whales are more closely related to some fish than those fish are related to other fish.

            • lugal@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              25 days ago

              And it’s totally valid to use it that way even though I wouldn’t. That’s the “You decide” part of my first comment