• TheAlbatross
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    1 month ago

    I don’t think there’s any issue with voting for Jill Stein, RFK or Mickey Mouse as long as you’re doing so with the full understanding that they will not win. As long as you’ve fully incorporated that into your mental calculus and it still seems to be the best course of action, do as ya like.

    While I agree it’s the right of every member of a democracy to vote for the candidate they think best, it’s also important to not be blinded by naive ideology and participate in these incredibly flawed systems pragmatically and practically, as they do not work in the way they advertise and must be manipulated in order to achieve the most positive possible outcome.

    Jill Stein winning a single vote in the electoral college is not a possible outcome.

    • Socialist Berserker@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 month ago

      as long as you’re doing so with the full understanding that they will not win.

      So should people only vote for who they think will win? Don’t you think that who you WANT to win is pretty important as a voter?

      Jill Stein winning a single vote in the electoral college is not a possible outcome.

      Because of the line of thinking that people should only vote for who they think will win.

      I personally vote for who I think would be best choice to be president. It’s now about who has the best chance of winning, or who I am afraid of winning. It’s who I would prefer to win. And for me, that’s Jill Stein.

      • TheAlbatross
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        13
        ·
        edit-2
        1 month ago

        That is ideological naivety. You are operating with a belief in the way the world should work but not with an understanding of the way it currently works.

        Practically, this is almost a non-issue because as a single person you have so little impact on politics that your naivety is irrelevant. But it means that your actions may be counterproductive to your goals.

        • Socialist Berserker@lemmy.worldOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          1 month ago

          You are operating with a belief in the way the world should work

          I agree with you. I know I have plenty of ideological naivety, but I believe the only way to change the system is for people to keep pushing for what they believe in. That’s why I’m voting for her.

          It’s a “be the change you want to see” situation.

          It’s also why, as a 55-year-old man, I decided to switch careers and move into education. I work in an elementary school now, making very little money, because I want to help better prepare our children for the future. Instead of just complaining, I chose to take action.

          Yes, I have a lot of ideological naivety, and I’m proud of it.

          • TheAlbatross
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            1 month ago

            I, too, wish America worked the way you think it should and admire your passion.

            Good luck to you and may we all see a better tomorrow.